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~Tradeart for Alainprem~

This is my part for an art trade with :iconalainprem: showing my 3D version of his Hoplitea character. I have 3 versions of it (inked, painted and comics) and couldn't decide which one to post, so in the end I posted them all in a single deviation. It will automatically cycle through all 3 versions first time you load it, and then you can click the screen to manually see each one.

==> Please tell me *which* version you like the best? Painted, Inked, or Comics? :aww:

It's funny how ~Alainprem asked me for this art trade last month (January 2009), but now claims to be too busy to work on his part. If people don't have time for it, why do they even bother getting me involved? Fortunately this is not something that happens very often, but it's not the 1st and chances are it will not be the last time.

We are just in the 2nd month of 2009 and I already got a commission I never got paid for, this unrequited art trade I was invited into, and also that Canadian music theft from my Flash animations. Sounds like a "progression", since 2008 also started up with another massive art theft from yet another Canadian website (what's with the Canadians?!). But the good news is that I will be *finally* reaching 100,000 page hits this month! Yay! :D

Figure is V4. AS3 programming by me, no music this time. Hope you like it and thanks for coming by!
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:icontroutingbird:
troutingbird Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2009
wow!! great artwork!!I like the way the three morp into each other.well done.keep up the great work...
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you! I made 3 versions and couldn't decide which one to post, so... :)
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:iconcubeboss:
CubeBOSs Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009
very interesting, a pic with interface where u can change design. way better than the boring normal stuff. lol
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you! I am always looking for new ways of using AS3 programming to make my gallery more interesting. ;)
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:iconcubeboss:
CubeBOSs Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009
yeah you're doing a gr8 job of it. Right now i'm still in actionscript 2.0 but i've learned a lot and am moving up slowly :D
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I think AS2 used to be impractical for anything more elaborated. Now Adobe has made AS3 a "real" programming language and everything changed. Frankly, I could never take AS2 seriously, and most programming book authors will say the same by now. Nonetheless, even AS3 has its own limitations, and there is a draft about the future AS4 being discussed nowadays. Things like untyped arrays are extremely inefficient, and there are many other things that need to be fixed. ^^
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:iconcubeboss:
CubeBOSs Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
lol theres an as3 class at my school now but its not in the course im taking. im in 4 graphic design and my teacher only knows actionscript 2.0
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
AS2 has been in the market for a long time, so there should be more people using it now than AS3. But to understand the importance of what AS3 has become as a programming language, one must have a minimal background in computer science. I have seen professional Flash programmers out there claiming "there is no difference between AS2 and 3", but that is just to show how little they understand about the changes and what they mean in terms of usability and productivity (software engineering). I can guarantee that Adobe wouldn't had spend a cent on making AS3 what it is today if it were "the same as AS2". ;p
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:iconcubeboss:
CubeBOSs Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009
thats true. but hell if i was a programmer or someone specializing in as 2 and i didn't understand 3. I would try to save my credibility by downplaying as 3 as "the same". but really they have to try to use and understand it otherwise they'll be left in the past. employers look for the most up to date. :D
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I have worked for many years as a programmer and software engineer in the American IT market, and one thing I have learned is that employers don't have a clue about technology, and even less their managers. Many of them are still using arcane tools and refuse to modernize, mostly because they would have to rewrite everything they have. In addition, most professional programmers in America are forced to go quick'n'dirty because of the ever-short deadlines. Most of the ones I have worked with were engineers, architects and other professions unrelated to computer science, using brute force implementations because they have no scientific methodology whatsoever.

Coming from the above, no wonder so many professional American programmers can't tell the difference between AS2 and AS3. Just look at the Flash forums and you will see what I mean... ;p
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VILLENA-MX Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2009
Amazing effects! Flash never stops of surprise me!
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks, I think Flash was the best thing that ever happened to my gallery. ;)
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:icondaaz-land:
DAaZ-Land Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
WoAw !!
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
3-in-1 deviation. ^___^
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melficexd Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The hoplites were warriors from Athens. Normally they fought naked, just with a spear, a short sword and a big shield. In fact, the movie "300" commits a great failure with the shields, those were from Athens, not from Sparta.

Not obstant, as you ask which version we think is better, i must say there is a difference of mediums, a picture is unfair that compete with a render. But still, the render is fairly good, although i'd go this time for the 2D art :) The main reason is because its the original work, i mean, the render is great, but the originality, the spirit of the character i think that still remains in the 2D picture. But yours is a great work too. I bet the other part was pleased with it.
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
2D art? But I didn't post any 2D art... :?

I posted 3 different versions of the same 3D render (inked, comics and painted) and I was asking which one you liked the best. ^^
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:iconmelficexd:
melficexd Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My mistake! i thought that you were asking which we liked more, your art, or the other guy's... Now i have it clear. Im between the inked version and the painted one. The inked indeed looks like it was made with ink, but there is a lot of more detail on the colred version. The inked looks a lot more artistic, though, but i'd say the painted version looks finer :)
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the feedback! So far I couldn't get the other guy to even come to see my part. No comments from him here. -_-
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:iconarchclan:
archclan Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
This is Sparta! :iconspartaplz: painted :)
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
*Female* Sparta! ^^
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:iconarchclan:
archclan Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
hahaha yeah :)
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
;p
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:iconredwingsdragon:
RedWingsDragon Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009
Hot work here man. I like painted best meself
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! Sounds like the painted one is the definite fav. :)
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:iconlonestranger:
LoneStranger Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Painted, definitely painted.
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Hehe it's hard to compete against colored versions. ;)
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:iconlonestranger:
LoneStranger Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Pretty much, looks fantastic I must say.
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! I try to make it look less 3D-ish. ^^
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:iconlonestranger:
LoneStranger Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Gotcha.
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:iconschieben:
Schieben Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Inked.
Her thighs are too big. :D
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Can thighs be too big? ;)
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:iconschieben:
Schieben Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's too deep a question for me to answer, man. :D
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Check :iconsergevirusx:'s gallery for a hint on that subject. :)
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:iconredwingsdragon:
RedWingsDragon Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009
Think that was his point.
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:iconschieben:
Schieben Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"It's funny how ~Alainprem asked me for this art trade last month (January 2009), but now claims to be too busy to work on his part. If people don't have time for it, why do they even bother getting me involved? Fortunately this is not something that happens very often, but it's not the 1st and chances are it will not be the last time."

I'm owed 11+ kiribans, 3 of which are over 4 years old.

I a;ways do my part as soon as it happens.

Maybe it's because we're 40, and "responsible" vs the teenage slackers that DA is mainly made up of. :shrug: :roll:
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I guess doing things I said I would do is part of my personality, not my age. I have always been like this. :) Still, people asking me for art trades and then claiming not to have time to do it makes no sense to me. Why do they ask if they don't want it? Anyway, I am giving this one as finished, at least on my part. :)
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Schieben Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"I guess doing things I said I would do is part of my personality"

Me too, but I think it was taught to us at an early age.

I can stand most anything, except for someone who doesn't do what they said they will.
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
I guess the worst part is the guy ignoring my notes as if I were bothering him. Perhaps I should be more selective when accepting requests for art trades, but on the other hand they usually start from people I never met before.
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:iconxuncu:
xuncu Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Student General Artist
Painted.

Pretty sweet.
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thank you! I guess color makes an impression. :)
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:icondon-shazz:
Don-Shazz Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
All 3 of the are great!
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! ^^
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:icondon-shazz:
Don-Shazz Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Photographer
You're welcome!
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:iconposerhobbit:
Poserhobbit Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Beautiful scene!
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks! 3-in-1 deviations are practical when I can't decide which one to post. ^^
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:icongustvoc:
Gustvoc Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009
Cool I feel envy great job :D
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Hey thank you! It's a convenient way when you can't decide which version to post. :)
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:iconlordcoyote:
lordcoyote Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009
THIS!
IS!
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
:iconspartaplz:
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:iconken1171:
ken1171 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Now change the voice to female, rinse and repeat. ;)
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:iconpluto-reaym:
Pluto-Reaym Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like it best painted, because of the detail and the intensity of her eyes. But they're all wonderful ^^
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